Hey hey! Several years ago I tried to start a "Finance Friday" post series with the intent to do them quarterly. Well, that sort of fell by the wayside but after talking about these posts with a new blog friend, it kind of reinvigorated my motivation to start them up again! Plus, I had an exchange with another blogger about careers/how I ended up in finance. So I figured this would be a good topic to start with.
I've referenced that I work in finance/financial services but haven't expounded much on it besides that. I think because I fear it is not very interesting to others? I kind of hate it when people ask what you do for a living at social events and such because my job is kind of hard to explain and my expertise is in an area of the market that is not well understood (the bond market). So I usually just say "I work in financial services" or "I work for an asset management company."
But I am curious about what others do and I always appreciate a deep-dive post about what others do for a living, like this post from Stephany where she delves into what she does and how she got into her role as a content writer. So here is my attempt to explain how I fill the hours of my work day without boring you to tears. ;)
Overview of my industry (asset management) and sector (fixed income):
I'll start off by explaining the industry/sector I work in to lay some basic ground work. I work for a large global asset management company that manages assets across basically any area of the global financial market - stocks, bonds, real estate, alternatives (too complicated to get into), etc. When I say "manages assets" I mean that my company manages mutual funds, ETFs, separate accounts, etc. My firm also specializes in responsible investing which focuses on environmental, social and governance factors (i.e. how are these companies treating their employees, addressing climate change, assuring diversity on their boards, etc).
The two areas of the market that most people are familiar with are stocks and bonds, but most people have a better understanding or are more familiar with the stock market since that is what gets discussed in the press most often (i.e. the S&P 500 went up X% today). That is the sector that my husband works in - he's a trader and research analyst at another small asset management firm. But I work in bonds, which is a sector that is technically referred to as "fixed income." To try to simplify things, a company can generally borrow money in 2 different ways - they can issue stock or they can borrow, either from a bank or from a pool of investors. When they borrow much from a pool of investors, they issue bonds. But there are lots of different companies and institutions that borrow money by issuing bonds such as corporations, governments and municipalities. Companies can also use bonds to pool a bunch of loans they've made. Think of a mortgage company that has generated thousands of mortgages to individual home buyers like me and you. They can take a bunch of mortgages, pool them together, and sell them to investors - the investors then receive the principal and interest payments the individual mortgage borrowers make on a monthly basis. Something similar can be done with credit card debt, auto loans, student loans, commercial mortgages on shopping malls or apartment buildings, etc.
Overview of my role:
My job title is "client portfolio manager" but I rarely mention that title outside of my company because people see "portfolio manager" and think that I am actually managing assets for clients, but that is not the case. Instead I would describe myself as a product expert. I mostly interact with a sales team that works with financial advisors and tries to get them to use our products in their clients accounts. Our sales team covers every ETF and fund that we manage, which is probably 100+ products! They can not be an expert and know the ins and outs of every product so they rely on a team of sector specialists, like myself, to answer questions. So I get on zoom calls to go over a product and answer questions with the sales person and the financial advisor or I will have a call with the sales person to prep them before a call, or I will answer questions over email that are raised. I also answer general questions about the fixed income markets.
Examples of questions I answer:
- How has this product performed during other periods of rising rates? What products are you recommending for this interest rate environment?
- What is your portfolio management team's thoughts on inflation and whether it's transitory? What is your forecast for the 10-year Treasury rate a year from now? What do you think the Federal Reserve will do in 2022 to manage inflation?
- What factors drove your fund's outperformance or underperformance? How are you positioned versus this list of competitors?
- Here is a list of bonds this client owns. If you were to manage the account, what would you keep and what would you sell?
- How does the relative value of this sector compare to other sectors? How does it compare to historical averages?
So there you have it - what I do in a nutshell (am I the only one picturing the "in a nutshell" scene from Austin Powers? Hee hee!). Let me know if you have any questions! In a future post, I'll share how I ended up in this field. I'd love to hear what you do for a living in the comments!
8 comments:
Glad to see you're delving back into the Finance Friday series (after my week of posts, you know I love this sort of stuff).
What a great overview of what you do, too!
I get a deer-in-headlights look when people ask what I do. I really should take an hour some day and hone my 15-second elevator spiel on this...
I've co-founded two small businesses: one in the agri-tech and another in the edu-tech spaces, and I now manage day-to-day operations of one of the edu-tech business (the second startup became part of an acqui-hire; and I'm hoping for a product acquisition for the edu-tech company). I also have worked (part-time) for a university for over a decade. I started before I got married and kept this position to help us bootstrap the small businesses. Most of that time I managed the campus tutoring/academic support program, but earlier this year I was asked to assume a part-time project manager position on a major multi-institution research project. I negotiated the number of hours down to 15/week (so I can continue on with my other commitments for now)...but it's a lot to juggle and I can go through periods with almost nothing heavy on my plate...and then be completely and utterly overwhelmed as each job definitely has cyclical demand (i.e. exam season for tutors, reporting/year-end for project management, responding to periodic bugs in the software I've developed from clients who always want things fixed...yesterday, which I completely understand).
I took the project manager job largely because it felt a bit ridiculous I wasn't using my educational background - entomology research. I've done a whole post about this (I'll link below!), but when I graduated with my Master's, I was 7 months pregnant with my first. I didn't want to keep doing research (and did end up working for an environmental consulting company until I had Baby #2)...so this feels like a good fit in terms of working in my field, but from a very different perspective. No lab coats and pipettes for me - just spreadsheets and Zoom calls and lots and lots of e-mails!
http://elisabeth-frost.com/?p=1771 (how we bootstrapped 2 startups)
http://elisabeth-frost.com/?p=1626 (a work Q&A - a bit more detail on what I've written above)
That does actually make perfect sense to me! I get the same problem, too, nobody understands what my job is, and after I finished the MBA in Finance nobody understood why I did that, either. I didn't realize you were in bonds, I thought bond valuation and the inverse relationship between bond prices and changes in interest rates was the most interesting part of my program.
Now I manage a team of software developers, and recently joined Fidelity to actually use both the finance interest and tech leadership parts of the background. It's been an amazing job so far.
I'm currently an employer stop loss underwriter. So I look at a company's health experience and quote based on how I think I can write the business to be profitable for my company...kind of. I've been there almost 3 years, and it can be frustrating because most of my coworkers have a couple decades of experience.
Lisa, I so admire that you can do what you do. Every single bit of it is so out of my realm of experience! Yes, it makes sense -- so long as I don't have to do it. I'm glad there are people like you who can!
This was so interesting to read, so thanks for indulging me in my nosiness of what you do. :) It does sound very complicated to explain! Those questions seem intense, but they probably seem very routine for someone in your position!
I love this post. As you know, I also work with a lot of fixed income, but lately we have been looking into other things since interest rates are going to go up...so I guess my question to you is...what ARE you recommending in this environment? Hahah.
I think your job sounds fun and I read your comments on Stephany's post and was thinking that I would love to take your "bond math" class too! Just like John, the most fun part of my studies has probably been fixed income and options and learning about both in more detail.
For what I do "in a nutshell" as you say... I manage client's portfolios by reading research etc. and talking to people on the desk and people like you to figure out how to best manage those portfolios and then I relay that message to clients and then execute the ideas.
I was talking to Kara's daughter and she asked me what I did and I said that I took people's money and invested it for them to try to make them more money. She looked at me and said, "aunty, you steal from people?" I had to tell her that, no, people gave me their money!
This is fascinating because a) it's NOTHING like how I spend my days, b) you clearly have an amazing grasp of this area, and c) I love knowing what people do! Thank you for sharing!
I knew you were in financial services and worked for a larger bank (as I recall), but I really loved learning more about what you do.
You're right, and I think it's true for most people, that it is hard to explain what we do on a daily basis in our jobs. It's hard to explain to someone who works in another sector what we do 8-10 hours a day.
Jon was saying how much more he understands my work now that I've been working from home and he'd had the opportunity to "overhear" some of my work calls.
I'd love for more people to share more about their jobs! :)
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